perbincanganygberilmiah.ha ha ha

Adely Kassim March 22 at 2:01pm

sume eh?
not me kot. kang trbabas dlm pecah amanah.. tarikan nafsu kuat.. :P


Shariah-based eh?
so.. y its called Islamic bank then, rather then Shariah bank?
i mean.. Islam is a religion right? while affiliate a religion with a bank?

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Nhaja M.n March 22 at 3:19pm

tpu la tu tanak b'juta2..if dpt b'juta2 yg halal takkan tanak?huu~


yup.but dont u think that the shariah itself is a guidance for islam?
there are no such religions yg menggunakan shariah sbg rules dlm agama dorg kan?
so, bank yg totally based on shariah is called islamic banking.
bkn sbb kte affiliate religion tu ngn bank tp da mmg kte pgil camtu.


let say if kte panggil shariah bank..
even conventional pn da ade part ntOk shariah pnye.
so takkan kte nak pgil conventional bank yg juz ade 1 bhgian yg gnekan shariah (such as cimb islamic) sbgai shariah bank jgk.
still kte akan ckp cimb is a conventional bank kan?

sory, tak reti nak terangkan.
msti tak phm kan?hehe
u need to ask sum1 yg expert bab2 ni.

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Adely Kassim March 23 at 4:42am

jap.. de slh fhm la..

sy ckp dpt "pegang" juta2. bukan brmaksud tu duit kite. keje pe yg start2 trus leh dpt jute2?? xdpt fikir la plak keje camtu..yg halal n bantu ekonomi la.. huhu)


Syariah is a guidance for Islam?
but the term "Syariah law" came after the death of our last prophet.
It has never existed during the time of Muhammad S.A.W.
so how can it be a guidance to a religion?
i think its better to say that Islam is the guidance to syariah law, not the other way around.


this bank is contituted by muslims i assume, or to be more precise,
human.
Dont u agree that human, they sometime make mistake?
i read a news about a big corruption in the donation by the muslim community in German (or some other country, pardon me for my memory), this corruption came from a high status religious person.


What im saying is that,
human, no matter how religious they are,
can be corrupted.
What happen, if one day, there's a case of corruption in this bank?
the news would be "Corruption in Islamic bank".
because of the fault of an imperfect human, the religion got the slap in the face.
Isnt too heavy, to give these people the responsibility of caring the name "Islam" in their business?
Dont u feel that we're using the word "Islam" so widely, in a lot of term, that at some point, we kind of loose the real meaning of it.


for the CIMB Islamic, they can use any term, be creative. i just bagi cadangan term "Syariah bank" for Islamic bank.
Even Engku Aziz, with his brilliant mind, came with the term "tabung Haji".
Infact, i think that CIMB bank came with that term because of the growth of "Islamic Bank" that with its name, manage to attract a lot of Malays. One copy cat after another i think.


i fhm pe yg u nk ckp kn..
Actually, i juz wanna hear ur opinion on this subject :)
i x sllu sembang dgn stud bidang perbankan. hehe
sori ek klw i de slh ckp..

u buat pe time mase lapang?

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Adely Kassim March 23 at 5:00am

i rse i kene b precise on sumthin. kelemahan i, i sllu anggap org fhm pe yg i ckp.


maksud i dgn dpt pegang duit juta2 ialah kerja yg melibatkn for example jadi perantaraan tuk transaction duit yg byk from one acc to, yg buat audit melibatkn jutaan ringgit or sumthin.. stuff like tht. =) i pun x tau sgt term bankin ni, but i harap u fhm hehe. bukan gaji juta2, (which is impossible kn? or possible.. i dun know..)


sori a sbb inye bahase.. my mistake..

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Nhaja M.n March 23 at 11:30am

owh..ok.
i tot u maksudkan dpt duet yg b'juta2.huu.
yup, maybe impossible but nowadays nak dpt sejuta sng je.masuk realiti tv shows pn da bley dpt sejuta.=P


"so.. y its called Islamic bank then, rather then Shariah bank?"
sory sbb i tak nmpk that sentence as a suggestion.my mistake.


*Shariah refers to the "way" Muslims should live or the "path" they must follow. It' s derived from the sacred text of Islam (the Qur'an), and Traditions (Hadith) gathered from the life of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad.


biasenye kte akan ckp camni kan:
kte sebagai org Islam mestilah melakukan sesuatu berlandaskan shariah2 islam.
Islam is a big word where its a name of muslims' religion. while shariah is a law that needs to be followed by muslims.


"but dont u think that the shariah itself is a guidance for islam?" and Islam yg sy maksudkan d'sini adelah org2 Islam.


yup, i agree with u. Islam is a perfect religion but we as a human will never escape from doing lots of mistakes. but it doesnt mean that we can't carry at all the name of Islam in any big industries. Even the other religion pn ade yg corrupt jgk.
kat cni i juz wanna give sedikit pendapat yg maybe tak brape nak mantap, where i think kte tak pna pn d'larang ntOk menggunakan name Islam dlm sesuatu bisnes.
but once we carry the name, we need to carefully handle the bisnes.


if let say ade corruption, tu slh organization tu sndiri. kalau kte nak fikir org akan pndg serong dgn Islam bile sumting like that happened, mmg mane2 organization or bisnes pn kte tak ley nak letak name Islam.
tp bygkan if kte bley handle the name of Islam dlm organisasi tu, we are actually flourishing our religion in the eyes of the world.


sumenye ade pros n cons so i tak pnah ckp ape yg u bgtau b4 this was totally wrong. it was right and im agree with u.siyesly. :)


maybe this is not the ans tp this is my opinion on y we use Islam in some big industries while we know that Islam is such a big term to be used.


skali lg, u tak slh.
sory if i was the one yg tak phm awal2 msg sblm ni yg u nak bg suggestion je.huu..


urm, mase lapang?
biasenye on9 je.
tak tu pn dnga lgu or bce novel.
tgk tv pn ye jgk.
pendek kate mcm2 la.hehe..

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p/s:tak pnh pn langsung b'sembang bab ilmiah gni ngn kwn kat fesbuk.heh.unbelivebel!